This idea that Tom owes Jungleman every dollar of the bet is childish and just not how things work in the real world. You know who is actually should be at fault here? Phil Ivey. He was supposed to have held Dwan's money in escorw. I don't know why this has been overlooked by...
If Tom owes you money, it is frustrating to see him gambling (especially if he wins and you don't see a payment) but it is also the main method he'd use to pay people back. In spots like this I think you have to consider that Tom is maybe in over his head, so organizing is...
Dwan gave Jetten an opportunity that he wouldnt have done if they werent friends, where Dwan risked a lot of his own money. Technically Jetten doesnt owe Dwan anything from this, but Dwan feels like Jetten "owes him" because they were friends when the deal was done. Quote 03...
i do agree that backing the way its set up sucks for the backer, but this isn't some random rec he tricked into doing business; durr has backed hundreds of people since the full tilt days. im sure he knows how the arrangements work (as evidenced by him agreeing he owes the money)....
Dwan - heavily overrated by clueless public due to his upswing on HSP - played HS online only due to the fact that he was backed by a ponzi scheme company - owes millions to people all around the world - dubios contacts to people and scammers from the demimonde, like Paul Phua - lo...
There was another thread about TJ Cloutier doing the same thing, borrowing money people would lend because he was obviously a big name player and could more than pay it back. With all the GTO, etc., playing super loose probably doesn't work so well now at high stakes. Maybe Dwan could...
I re-iterate that whilst "technically" its clear Dwan owes the ~250k if at this point Jetten isnt willing to play whilst in 1.6milly of makeup for either Tom or someone who is willing to buy the make-up, it makes a huuuggee difference. Quote 03...